Showing posts with label Footscray JUST. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Footscray JUST. Show all posts

Friday, 31 July 2020

Episode 49 - The name of the game is...

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Another week, another episode beset by technical problems. But we soldier on!

We note that Mark Boric's second-hand scanner has gone kaput, and that George Cotsanis is uploading the latest of his interview series to his My World Is Round social media pages.

We also note that Greg Stock has been updating the New South Wales and Tasmania sections of OzFootball.

Altona City senior squad, 1967.
Back row: Jim Mather, Billy Coles, Jim Balish, Bobby Milloy,
 Chris Kalamidis, Steve Herman, Craig Copley, Billy/Andy Rice.
Front row: Ian Roberts, Billy Wilkie, Mario Grego, Davie Cook,
Bernie McCluskey.
Source: Chrsitine Grego-Davis.
Paul begins the main part of this week's discussion by relating a convoluted story of artefact discovery, retrieval, recording, and identification - with a particular focus on nine photographs of the 1950s and 60s Victorian player Mario Grego. A fitter and turner by trade, was born in what is now Pula in Croatia (then Yugoslavia), before moving to Trieste and eventually to Australia. A defender, Grego's career included stints at Footscray Capri, Footscray JUST, an Altona City, representative duties with the Yugoslavia side in the Laidlaw Cup, with a possible temporary stint at an early version of Triestina (today's Essendon Royals. Paul looks at, among other things:
  • The joys ad frustrations of accidental and serendipitous discoveries.
  • The holders of such artefacts not realising the worth of said items, nor that there are people and communities interested in them.
  • Problems with identification (and implied problems with copyright).
  • The difficulty in translating passive social media "likes" into more serious engagement from both individuals and clubs.
  • The tantalising (and yes, frustrating) prospect of more such material being out there in cupboards and boxes.
After the break, in the wake of a trademark tribunal ruling that included the assessment that Australian Rules is not the only type of football played in Australia, Ian and Paul revisit the matter of word "soccer", and the history of its usage in Australia. These are issues we also covered to varying degrees in episode 1 and episode 7. This time we look at several aspects of the issue, including:

  • Briefly, what the trademark tribunal had to say on the matter.
  • The contested origins of the term "soccer".
  • The cultural importance of the term "football" in Australia, to demonstrate cultural centrality.
  • The nature of the word's introduction to Australia, both in terms of timelines, but also where it was most heavily used - initially seemingly a Western Australian phenomenon
  • The usage of the term in times and places where there was no organised soccer in Australia.
  • Soccer being both a word/term that has been forced upon, but also chosen by Australian soccer to define and distinguish itself.
  • The transition from being football clubs, to soccer clubs, and back again - as well as the politics and marketing considerations involved with those decisions.
  • The "Socceroos" name, and Australian soccer fans who hate the term soccer.
  • The word "soccer" becoming a verb in certain contexts, especially in Australian rules football
  • The Heroes of Waterloo song "Soccer, Soccer"

Finally, we wrap up the show with 100 Years Ago Today, where we travel to Weston, where we begin to realise that teams protesting results in Newcastle and its surrounds seems to be exceptionally common; we check in on the boy scouts of Kogarah; look at the death of a racehorse; and note the 150th anniversary of the first game played by the Port Adelaide Football Club, by casting doubt on what kind of football they were actually playing.

Wednesday, 11 March 2020

Episode 36 - Footscray JUST and Schintler Reserve; A Letter From the Front

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On this week's episode we welcome back Ian back from vertigo, and we look at the recent activity of some of our favourite local soccer historians.

In 100 Years Ago Today, it looks like the ground allocations in Albany aren't going so well; Toowoomba's soccer folk are looking forward to a promising season; in Brisbane, soccer has managed to secure the Gabba for its marquee matches in 1920; there's the usual flurry of activity in Newcastle and the Hunter; and in the Illawarra, attempts are being made to revive the Port Kembla club, which had disbanded due to the enlistment of its entire playing roster for the war effort.

Footscray JUST vs Fawkner at Schintler Reserve, in 1990.
Photo: Graeme McGinty.
 In our middle segment, we look at the demise of Footscray JUST via three prompts. First, beginning an preliminary examination of the various ways in which Australian soccer clubs perish. Second, what happens to the collective memory of an Australian club when it perishes. Third, looking specifically at the loss of Schintler Reserve as a soccer venue. In episode 16 we looked at the difficulties soccer had in securing a permanent (and preferably enclosed) venue in Footscray, which was an extension of the discussion in episode 15, where we looked at the contemporary attempt by Melbourne Victory to secure part of Footscray Park as a training base,

The shipping container lot on the current site of Schintler Reserve.
Photo: Les Street.
The ultimate loss of Schintler Reserve is examined through the lens of the July 1998 civil case Bulic vs Melbourne City Nominees Pty Ltd, whose details are accessible via the AustLII database we discussed in episode 35. The case shows the elongated and unusual demise of Footscray JUST, wherein it was split in two, with one part attempting to transform into a "broadbased" club; then having the football part taken over by an Argentine consortium, and the other becoming a lease holder of an inner city soccer venue without tenants, and with little apparent prospect of rejuvenating of said venue.

In our final segment Ian revisits a leftover item from last year - a rollicking report on the experience of the 34th Battalion from Maitland, and their experiences playing soccer against an English regiment on the war front in February 1918. Peter Coppock's report is both lively and modest, and an exemplary demonstration of how strongly soccer was embedded in Newcastle and its surrounds as a cultural force.

Thursday, 1 August 2019

Episode 16 - Footscray, Footscray, it's a hell of a town!; Preston Makedonia match programs

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Albury kicks off at night, or so Paul has been told. (you can also hear Paul shuffling papers like he's channeling his inner Birchabald T. Barlow)

We get an answer from Mark Boric as to why Victorian clubs took so long to start their season in 1919.

Thanks to Travis Faulks, we finally get some Illawarra content, including historical nicknames!

(also we get promised an intern, a promise which fails to materialise)

Thanks to Garry McKenzie, we get an overview of Brisbane church soccer.

Then 100 Years Ago Today with Victorian scores, and no news... a West Australian team misses its train... then to Newcastle and code-harmony...  a Brisbane story tickles Ian's code-war and class-war yearnings... in Goobumgee, there's some games being played, where Ian takes on the legitimacy of "dance committees" to Paul's displeasure...

After the break, it's back to talking about Footscray, providing a historical overview of soccer in the area, including clubs and grounds across the decades. Footscray City, Footscray United (two kinds), Footscray Capri, Footscray JUST... more Footscray content than you can poke a stick at. Plus all the usual digressions into public space, suburbia, works teams, etc.

In the final segment, Paul looks at some old Preston Makedonia match day programs from the late 1980s - they're rather good, with a lot of interesting content spanning supporter etiquette, advertisements, politics, nationalism, overseas soccer, news, player profiles, battles with local councils, even some poetry,  - but most importantly about what the editorial style says about the balance the struggle to exist between two cultures.