Showing posts with label George Cotsanis. Show all posts
Showing posts with label George Cotsanis. Show all posts

Thursday, 22 October 2020

Episode 61 - Tony Persoglia, History & Heritage Coordinator at Football Victoria

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Ian is unavailable this week, due to interference from construction related ambient noise at his lockdown locale, and thus Paul is joined in hosting duties by George Cotsanis.

During the clean-up we look at Mark Boric and friends sharing the document love as they are wont to do, with particular focus on this program for the 1967 match between Sydney Prague and Sparts Prague. Apart from looking at the program on its own merits, we also look at how many of these programs end up in the United Kingdom, when in Australia they seem to be thin on the ground. We then follow up with George and his recent interviews, as well as his role in unearthing lower league Victorian soccer photos and ephemera from the 1950s and 60s, particularly from the now long-defunct Heidelberg club (not the club now known as Heidelberg United).

Closing out the first segment of this week's episode, is a quick overview of the Australian Dictionary of Biography - what it is and how it works. We also traipse through the soccer content on the ADB site, including not only the limited biographies of 'genuine' soccer people (such as Sam Papasavas), but also at the many fleeting references to soccer in biographies of people who seem to otherwise have very little to do with the game. For the many English and Scottish born migrant subjects who were passionate or interested about the game in their home nation, but who seemingly lost touch with it once they settled in Australia, there is seemingly a theoretical thread to be drawn of some sort. Then again, as pointed out by listener Paul Hunt after the show, entries such as that on the Anglican bishop Robert Snowden Hay, while mentioning Hay's soccer prowess in England for the leading amateur club Bishop Auckland, fail to mention Snowden's significant involvement in Tasmanian soccer during the 1920s.

Our guest this week is occasional co-host and recurring guest Tony Persoglia, who has recently taken up the role of History and Heritage Coordinator at Football Victoria, a part-time paid role. We talk to Tony about:

  • the long-path to get to this point - recommendations, surveys, and COVID
  • the probable novelty of such a role being established at an Australian state soccer federation.
  • whether the creation of this position will prompt other state federations to follow suit
  • the kinds of things that Tony will look at, including hall of fame, life membership, scores and tables, 
  • oh, and posting of regular history articles like this one on the New York Cosmos visit to Victoria
  • and so much more, of course.

On 100 Years Ago Today, we find Geelong soccer games that Roy Hay wasn't aware of; go to Gnowangerup and Tambellup-Ongerup, in south-east Western Australia, for some sexist football banter; then across to Sydney for a match between two teams of referees; plans for a New South Wales tour of New Zealand; the Catholic papers looking across the sea at sectarian tensions in Ulster, and a football related riot that isn't this one;  and finally ground allocations in Brisbane and surrounds.

Wednesday, 4 March 2020

Episode 35 - Australasian Legal Information Institute (AustLII) database; demise of AAP

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On this week's episode, Paul is joined in hosting duties by George Cotsanis, who's filling in for Ian Syson who's suffering from vertigo. We start off with catching up with what George has been keeping busy with, which includes a scrapbook from an old club coming soon, and a newly sourced (and re-found) team photo of the short-lived Victorian club Footscray Capri. George also has some Betamax tapes from Gary Cole's collection, but he needs a working Betamax machine to see what's on them - can any of our listeners help?

We then move on to the news of the day, which is the imminent demise of Australian Associated Press. While noting the devastating impact AAP's closure will have on the quality and breadth of news coverage in Australia - and on the journalists who will lose their livelihoods - Paul, George and the show's producer Josh Parish focus on what the possible effects will be for Australian soccer coverage, including the future historical archive.

This includes the impacts on coverage of national level soccer in smaller media markets like Tasmania; Vince Rugari's and Mike Tuckerman's points that coverage of small, low interest games like Mariners vs Phoenix in Gosford might disappear; Josh's note that even the online dedicated soccer press, like SBS' The World Game, also rely heavily on AAP content, and that AAP writers are often the only people attending press conferences.

Paul goes on to note that even if the soccer specific press fills in the gap left by the demise of AAP, the deficiencies of being soccer specific sites means that the game will lose a connection to mainstream sporting news coverage, even if that coverage was already marginal. On top of that, there's the still the issue of print primacy when it comes to archives - websites and web pages are still liable to disappear without a trace, taking with them the public record in a way that the demise of print news does not.

We also look at the parallels in historic lapses of coverage, reportage, and record keeping in Australian soccer. There's also the observation by Les Street that AAP reports made up a huge chunk of National Soccer League reporting, especially in the 1990s and 2000 once papers like Soccer Action ceased running. (Greg Werner also wonders what will happen to AAP's photographic archive.)

We finish off the opening segment of the episode by quickly looking at Mark Boric's latest update, wherein he foresees a likely end to his frantic mass scanning sessions, unless there's a major donation or find.

Our main topic for this week is Australasian Legal Information Institute (AustLII) database, and the soccer references contained within. In its own words, the AustLII database:
provides free internet access to Australasian legal materials. AustLII's broad public policy agenda is to improve access to justice through better access to information. To that end, we have become one of the largest sources of legal materials on the net, with over four million searchable documents. 
AustLII publishes public legal information -- that is, primary legal materials (legislation, treaties and decisions of courts and tribunals); and secondary legal materials created by public bodies for purposes of public access (law reform and royal commission reports for example) and a substantial collection of law journals.
We look at the wide range of legal genres that AustLII covers, among them:
  • ombudsman reports
  • visa and migration tribunals
  • judgements from criminal courts and civil proceedings
  • town planning and local government regulations
  • industrial relations tribunals
  • liquor licencing
  • discrimination hearings 
  • government gazettes
All these genres (and the many others besides) when looked at with a soccer lens show us a different side of the game apart from the goals and glory that is the primary interest of so many. It shows up the administrative side of the game, and the ways in which Australian soccer is connected to crucial elements of Australian life via its interactions with the legal system. Foreign players on visas - and the clubs that have hired them - find things go wrong.

There's ombudsman's reports into the chaotic political party and ethnic factional machinations of local councillors, and the ways in which soccer clubs trying to get access to grounds (and funding) were intimately connected to those shenanigans.

Perhaps most curiously, you have likely non-soccer followers making judgements on the relative merits of Australian soccer and Australian clubs, in terms of national and international prestige. For example, one arbiter of justice had this to say about long defunct Tasmanian club Hobart Azzurri:
Hobart City Azzuri Soccer Club is not a national soccer club (such as, for example, the "Socceroos"). Nor is it a national soccer organisation (such as the "Australian Soccer Federation"). Whilst it may be possible for a local soccer club to have a "national reputation" I do not think on the evidence before me, that Hobart City Azzuri Soccer Club enjoys such a reputation.
There are also documents from court proceedings from clubs taking on their respective federations, the kind of thing which is crucial to understanding the history of soccer in Australia. In short, the AustLII database is a wonderful and probably under-utilised resource in terms of researching Australian soccer history.

In our final segment, Ian calls in from home to do his 100 Years Ago Today segment. He looks at the ongoing preparations for the oncoming 1920 season in Newcastle,  ads for football boots in Queensland, and the simmering tension of the club vs district debate. Elsewhere though, there appears to be little news, with the Perth and Melbourne scenes offering scant clues to what's happening, and other areas - like South Australia - offering nothing at all.

Thursday, 3 October 2019

Episode 24 - George Cotsanis; cocktails; films; Chaplin Reserve

George Costanis handing over "The Romans Are Coming"
film reel to a representative of AS Roma.
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This week we're joined for the whole episode by special guest, George Cotsanis.

We look at Mark Boric updating Australian Women's state championship results thanks to some programs he's received, after which he created a page which included footage of 1980s of said championships donated by Deb Nichols.

Ian gripes about the name of a cocktail at the Plough Hotel in Footscray vis a vis a political stance on the Footscray Park issue. Paul isn't as fussed by said menu item.

Then an update on Paul's map project.

After the break, Cotsy absolutely butchers the 100 Years Ago Today sting. See this link for more on this week's 100 Years Ago Today, which incudes discussion Albany and Denmark in Western Australia, and the broken promises made to Caledonians in Western Australia following their commitment to war efforts.

We collectively lament the lack of time in modern life, where the social aspects of soccer (and sport) are harder to maintain.

Then we get to discuss - finally - Cotsy's film collecting and digitisation. This includes:
We discuss

  • the process of access, digitisation, preservation, and copyright. 
  • the films themselves.
  • the nature and value of these games.
  • the visit of Roma to a VFL game. 
  • And of course, Cotsy's interaction with Roma itself, who were pleased to be able to put their film into their museum.

See Cotsy's YouTube Channel for more of his videos.

We also have time to mourn - for real this time - the passing of Chaplin Reserve in Sunshine.