Showing posts with label Athas Zafiris. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Athas Zafiris. Show all posts

Thursday, 22 April 2021

Episode 77 - Athas Zafiris on soccer-soldier Joseph Bilbie; Andrew Howe on NSL promotion and relegation

Download and listen to this episode here.

Ian is back in the studio, and has an explanation for why he wasn't available the previous week. His reasons don't impress Paul. But there's a bit of Adelaide content here to make amends for failing to keep up South Australian quotas. Ian also reminisces about listening to Paul's hosting the previous week.

Then the clean up, with due acknowledgment of the wonderful archival work being done by Mark Boric and Greg Stock. Paul goes on with his fascination with the menus of Australian soccer gala dinners of days of yore. Then a digression into one time professional golfer and golf announcer Jack Newton, and the soccer content in Newton autobiography, including oppressive attitudes to soccer from some Sydney schoolmasters when Newton when was growing up.

We're also joined by Athas Zafiris of the Shoot Farken website, to discuss a piece he's written about Joseph Bilbie, early 20th Century soccer start in Minmi, and World War 1 soldier. We talk about the background to this research; Bilbie's story; the impact of Bilbie's death on the local community in both civic and soccer senses; and the wider stories and lessons which can be drawn from the involvement of soccer personnel in World War 1. We also look at the way in which we don't always acknowledge the way soccer was embedded in certain Australian communities at the time, being overwhelmed by the media presence and propaganda of other football codes.

In our second (and as it turns our, final segment for this week), we're joined by Australian soccer's statistician-in-chief Andrew Howe to talk about how promotion and relegation worked in the National Soccer League. Right away we clear up one of the biggest misconceptions (yes, there was pro-rel in the NSL) - but we also get into the nuances of how the NSL's promotion and relegation protocols worked; its similarities to the re-election process in England's Football League prior to 1986, which included evaluating teams coming in and out based on financial and other criteria; how the lack of nationwide second division made promotion and relegation that much more complicated, including the complicated playoff systems of the late 1980s; the teams which rejected the chance to move into the NSL; and the eventual reasons why the NSL abandoned promotion and relegation in any form.

Sunday, 16 December 2018

Episode 6 - Walter Pless; school soccer; State Federation histories

Tasmanian soccer journalist and historian
Walter Pless had a chat with us.
Download and listen to episode 6.

On our final episode for the year, we began the show with some feedback courtesy of Athas Zafiris, who had a justified bone to pick with us about our discussion on the 'digital narrowness' discussion during the previous week's episode.

In the '100 Years Ago Today' segment, Ian discusses school soccer.

We also chatted with Tasmanian soccer journalist Walter Pless. During the interview we covered Walter's personal soccer journey, his decades of soccer journalism, his shift into blogging and historical writing, and measuring the playing dimension's of Hobart's soccer grounds (link is archived from the original).

Then Paul discussed the various state federation's historical offerings, of which South Australia's Hall of Fame and especially Western Australia's broad sweep of history are the clear leaders of an otherwise bad bunch.

We also thanks a whole bunch of people for their support over our six-week pilot period.