Friday 28 August 2020

Episode 53 - Roy Hay on Harry Dockerty and Scots in soccer; Internet Archive

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On this week's episode we begin by acknowledging that George Cotsanis is still doing his interviews, and that Mark Boric's computer has apparently carked it. Paul also notes one of those rarer moments where uploading, saving, and hoarding copious amount of material actually pays off, via being able to provide a link to a podcast interview with Kate Cohen.

Paul talks about finding (and uploading) a stash of mid-2000s Green Gully videos - including a brief rundown of the existence of Trove's archived website search tool, which is analogous to Wayback Machine

Paul then follows up last week's look at the Wayback Machine, by giving a rundown of his early explorations with the Wayback Machine's parent project, the Internet Archive. Paul notes, among other things

  • What the Internet Archive is, and how long it's been doing it for
  • What kinds of things one can find on the Internet Archive, and what's clearly not there from an Australian soccer standpoint. 
  • Contemplating its utility as both a back up and alternative to storing items on servers such as Google's.
  • The advantages of uploading to Internet Archive over other services - including the automatic creation of multiple file formats for each item you upload, including text recognition files.
  • The disadvantages of uploading to Internet Archive - especially the site's cumbersome search tool.
  • A how to (which works much better if you can find the relevant video stream on Facebook) in terms of uploading - including the importance of breadth of subject/tags/labelling, as well as consistency; selecting "English" where appropriate, in order to enable text scanning; as well as a quick demonstration of the ability to fix or add to an item's metadata after the initial upload.
(Due to not being adequately prepared or suitably rehearsed, Paul forgets to mention the "collections" utility - maybe in a future episode)


Our guest this week is Australian soccer's best known and most prolific historian, Roy Hay. After discussing why it took 53 episodes to get him on to the show, we get into a very wide ranging discussion nominally on Victorian soccer player and administrator Harry Dockerty, but also onto other topics as is the wont of people who have known each other for many years. So, in the discussion
  • Who was Harry Dockerty - where did he come from and how did he end up in Melbourne?
  • What was he like as an administrator, and what kind of obstacles would he have faced as president of Victorian soccer from for the fifty years he was involved with the game?
  • The changes in the soccer milieu he would have seen,
  • The nature of Scottish immigration to Australia, especially within the context of soccer in Victoria, and the status of the Scots as an ethnic group in their own right.
  • The Scots' influence on all codes (and leagues) of football in Victoria.
  • The competition and trophy Dockerty established and had named after him, the Dockerty Cup.
  • The matter of footballing continuities both social and personal, and for the Dockerty Cup itself.

Roy stays on for the final segment, 100 Years Ago Today, where we in Tasmania we find that the much anticipated North vs South game is a bit of a fizzer; we get a rundown once more on the hopes of getting financial help from the English FA; take a look at the Prenzlau vs Marburg match in Ipswich; check out the Melbourne results; and zip through the South Australian competition, with another hitherto unfamiliar trophy.

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